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No. 472 Season 2022 · Episode 19 · Recorded August 22, 2022

Sometimes We Read Stuff

8 conversations 1:29:44

In this episode

  1. Bit 0:00 5 min

    Cold open: teenagers and YouTube

    Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper. After the Howard Dean scream riff, the hosts work through a poll on where teenagers spend most of their time online — YouTube wins at about 95%, beating social media. That leads to kids aspiring to be YouTubers and a host admitting he yells at kids about it while nobody crushed his own childhood dream of playing for the Bulls. Dan talks about his fasting YouTube videos going oddly viral and a six-part mission-trip planning series he published unpolished.

  2. 4:51 5 min

    James Webb article and the episode docket

    Ben teases a MindMatters piece titled 'James Webb Space Telescope Shows Big Bang Didn't Happen?' — the angle is scientific humility: Christians should not put their heads in the sand, since science is a way of understanding what God has done. The hosts then lay out the docket: the article, a round of the room naming non-Christian nonfiction books that did something for their faith, and a practical talk on getting into spiritual disciplines.

  3. Hard question 9:29 21 min

    Marriage: the woman as helper and fighting for the we

    • What does it mean for the woman to be a helper to a man?

    Ben works through a theory he has been testing in Scripture, prayer, and conversation: the idea that the woman being a 'helper' to a man says more about male frailty than female subservience. He walks through general design differences he observes — men compartmentalizing, women holding everything at once — and reframes marital conflict: stop asking whether your spouse is failing you and start asking whether you are filling the gap so the 'we' stays strong. Nathaniel's example becomes the case study — he agrees to everything as the path of least resistance, which puts his wife in the position of dragging him along. The advice: say yes boldly or no with confidence, never put your wife in the mom position, and have 'we' conversations about things like overtime. It closes with a Pope Francis aside and the Secular-vs-Solomon style judgment that the Pope is a dicey character.

  4. 30:14 25 min

    Books round: non-Christian nonfiction that did something for faith

    • Which non-Christian nonfiction book did something for your faith?

    Around the room for the docket question. Ben's pick is No More Dragons by Jim Bergen (the Eustace-turned-dragon baptism picture from Narnia). Nathaniel picks John Ortberg's The Life You've Always Wanted, which he reread years after college and was wrecked by. Another host names Jim Cymbala's Fresh Wind, Fresh Fire (church health measured by Tuesday prayer meeting attendance) and Dan names Pete Greig's Red Moon Rising on the 24-7 prayer movement. The room detours into C.S. Lewis — Screwtape, Narnia, the Space Trilogy's Genesis-like singing creation — then more picks: Bob Goff's Love Does, Douglas McKelvey's Every Moment Holy liturgies, Gary Chapman's The 5 Love Languages, Elias Chacour's Blood Brothers on Israel and Palestine, David Kennedy's Don't Shoot on crime and community misunderstanding, Nabeel Qureshi's Seeking Allah Finding Jesus, Rodney Stark's The Rise of Christianity, and Rosaria Butterfield's The Gospel Comes with a House Key. The recurring theme: people and situations are more complicated than they look.

  5. Hard question 54:45 17 min

    Spiritual disciplines: how to start without bailing by day three

    • If you wanted to start a spiritual discipline, what should the first weeks look like?

    The hosts get practical about starting prayer, fasting, Scripture reading, and meditation from zero. Expectation-setting is the theme: do not open with 30 minutes at 5:30 a.m. or you will quit. Start with borrowed words — the Lord's Prayer, the Shema, the Numbers 6 blessing, a worship song stuck in your head — and let it grow like a relationship. Going through the motions at first is fine, like learning to run the bases slow; the brain fixes things with repetition, and you should not feel bad needing reminders and structures. Ben recommends Dallas Willard's The Spirit of the Disciplines. Closing rule: God gets your first and your best, not the two leftover minutes you ask him to bless.

  6. Dear LFTP 1:11:31 7 min

    Dear LFTP: the 55-year-old with a wife and a girlfriend

    • Why can't I enjoy both my wife and my girlfriend without feeling like I am sneaking around?

    A letter from a successful 55-year-old married man who also has a girlfriend: both women feed his soul, he hates that society says he is wrong, and he wants to enjoy both without feeling like he is sneaking around. The hosts answer bluntly — it is entirely selfish, he is using both women, he is a coward hiding from his wife, and he is setting himself up for a use-and-throwaway operation that will leave him with nothing. The Secular answer is equally sharp: nowhere in the letter does he ask for advice, and having money does not guarantee character or class.

  7. Dear LFTP 1:18:03 7 min

    Dear LFTP: the controlling ex named Pete and dating Darren

    • Should I resume dating Darren or would that prove my ex right that I cheated?

    A woman was married almost twenty years to Pete, a jealous controlling man who emotionally abused her and said her daughter's 24-hour-care illness was 'ruining our retirement.' After divorcing, she started seeing Darren, an old friend her ex accused her of cheating with; she broke it off because she did not want Pete to claim he broke up the marriage. The hosts say she is still letting Pete control her — he abdicated, he is a jerk, stop answering the phone, block him, deny him instant access. The boundary rule: you are only denying instant access, not cutting someone off; they can still knock on your door. The Secular answer agrees: quit letting the ex control you, talk with Darren about resuming, or find a psychotherapist for tools against manipulation.

  8. 1:25:29 2 min

    Outro and guests teaser

    The hosts ask listeners to rate the show whatever stars give them the tickle wheelies, then tease that guests are coming back soon — COVID wiped out the guest pipeline and it has been quite a while.

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