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No. 326 Season 2017 · Episode 20 · Recorded June 19, 2017

From Rib to Reality

13 conversations 0:51:38 With Nick Harris

In this episode

  1. 0:01 2 min

    Cold open: late start and the pre-show ethics debate

    • Can there be a moral authority, and where does that kind of authority come from?

    The episode opens late: the hosts explain they got into an extended pre-show discussion stemming from an ethics class — whether there can be a moral authority and where that kind of authority comes from — which drifted into the hard questions people raise about the God of the Bible, including the killing of the Canaanites and the near-sacrifice of Isaac. One host jokes the audience is welcome for not having the microphones on earlier.

  2. 2:18 1 min

    Show open and in-studio guest introduction

    After camera adjustments, a host (speaker-2) introduces in-studio guest Nick Harris by name, noting he was sitting alone in the dark without a camera on him. The hosts banter about the camera angles, then lay out the episode, starting with a Huffington Post article about Jesus being the first transgender man.

  3. 2:59 5 min

    Reading the 'Jesus, the first transgender man' article

    A host reads aloud from the Huffington Post article 'Jesus, the first transgender man' by Suzanne DeWittall. The article's argument: Eve was cloned from Adam's rib (XY DNA), making her the first transgender woman, and Jesus — conceived by the Holy Spirit and taking flesh from Mary, hence XX chromosomes — must by the same logic be the first transgender man. The hosts interject with disbelief as the genetics argument unfolds.

  4. 7:38 3 min

    Rebutting the article's selective scientism

    • Who is the 'Jesus the first transgender man' article actually trying to convince?

    The hosts take apart the article's logic: it accepts the miracle of the Holy Spirit causing a virgin to conceive but draws the line at the resulting child being male, applying genetics selectively. One host jokes about doing Punnett squares to figure out what Jesus should have looked like, calling the whole thing ridiculous. They close by asking who the article is even meant to convince — nobody on the fence, they conclude.

  5. 10:50 3 min

    Outrage articles exist for clicks, not converts

    Discussion turns to why such an article exists: not to change minds but to generate hits and clicks, which translate into ad revenue. The hosts walk through the ad economics — a site boasting 10 million hits when most readers disagree with the article — and note the actual ads served on the page, including bookstore.com and the article author's own children's book, The Adventures of Rumple Pimple. The in-studio guest adds that people are drawn to the wrong thing for lack of information, like sheep following.

  6. 13:36 5 min

    Are Christian outlets doing the same affirmation-only thing?

    • How do we make sure our own Christian content isn't just affirming people who already agree with us?

    A host cites a study finding it is extremely difficult to learn information you think you already know, arguing the article is designed only to affirm existing beliefs as a 'gotcha' against opponents. The hosts turn the lens on Christian media — Faithwire, The Christian Post, Christianity Today, Godvine — asking how to avoid producing the same affirmation-only content. A host addressed by name about his experience from tapes and pamphlets through the digital revolution says the industry has always been about clicks and marketing over content; the conversation drifts to Bible translation marketing, with former ESV advocates now promoting the CSB without explaining the switch.

  7. 18:37 9 min

    Measuring ministry: faithful means vs. real results

    The conversation widens to measuring ministry effectiveness: are churches and ministries accomplishing what they intend, or just successfully doing things? Examples include maintaining a social media presence because everyone does, and a church livestreaming services to a dozen viewers without asking why. The hosts warn against 'chucking seeds' as an excuse, cite the 'I plant seeds' line, and argue for stepping back, praying, and asking whether you are up to what God is up to or just what you are up to. One host notes he personally re-evaluated whether the show itself was worth continuing about three years ago.

  8. Bit 27:28 8 min

    Cookie-cutter outreach and the Philip riff

    The hosts critique cookie-cutter outreach — every church copying whatever worked elsewhere instead of listening for what God wants in their own context. One host tells the Philip and the Ethiopian eunuch story as a parable: God sent Philip to one specific spot, and now a hundred churches show up there the next week waiting for another eunuch. The bit escalates into a comedy riff about churches from Corinth showing up with commemorative pamphlets, and the letter-carrier who delivered Paul's letters to Corinth knowing exactly what was in them.

  9. 35:43 1 min

    Announcements: clips, Crystal Joy, and next week's segment

    Announcements: past clips and performances are on livefromthepath.org, including musical guest Michael Liverton's performances. Author Crystal Joy is expected back before summer's end with another book coming, and her earlier interview and appearance on the 'Is It Love?' game show are available on the site. The hosts defer the 'seven things evil is not' segment to next week and move into Dear LFTP advice letters.

  10. Dear LFTP 37:01 4 min

    Dear LFTP: the age-gap relationship

    • A late-20s woman is falling in love with a man 30-plus years older with incompatible life goals — can any good come of this, or is the end just heartbreak?

    Dear LFTP letter: a woman in her late twenties is back with a man 30-plus years older after both failed to find partners closer to their ages; she wants children and a career while he has grandchildren and wants to travel after retirement — and this time she is falling in love. One host calls the likely end 'heartbreak... every time,' then clarifies that every relationship ends in loss, which is no reason not to pursue it. The consensus advice: resolve the practical incompatibilities honestly, put God at the center, get married and be happy — followed by the Secular persona's pros-and-cons answer.

  11. Dear LFTP 41:00 5 min

    Dear LFTP: the found $160

    • A couple found $160 in cash, handed it to a neighbor, and no one claimed it — should they get to keep it?

    Dear LFTP letter: a couple found $160 in cash scattered near a neighbor's car, handed it to the neighbor to check with her husband, and two weeks later no one has claimed it while the neighbor suggests spending it on toys or food. The hosts call the handling foolish — they should have verified ownership on the spot — and advise letting it go rather than damaging the friendship over $160 they never owned. The Secular persona's answer agrees the letter-writers lost their claim by handling it poorly.

  12. Dear LFTP 46:02 5 min

    Dear LFTP: the RSVP no-show friend

    • A friend RSVPs yes to every invitation but never shows up — does the writer have to keep inviting her?

    Dear LFTP letter: a friend RSVPs yes to every party invitation for years but never shows up or explains, and the writer asks if she must keep inviting her. The hosts answer with a flat 'No' — stop inviting her, or just call and ask why she says yes when she will not come — calling the pattern ridiculous after years of silence. The Secular persona grants permission to scratch her off the guest list, which the hosts dismiss as unhelpful validation.

  13. 50:51 1 min

    Sign-off

    Sign-off: the hosts invite advice emails to info@livefromthepath.org, hope the in-studio guest Nick Harris will return, and close with the show's sign-off line — 'be faithful in the means; God will handle the ends.'

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