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No. 560 Season 2025 · Episode 11 · Recorded May 19, 2025

Chill Out

9 conversations 1:26:30

In this episode

  1. 0:00 1 min

    Produced show open

    The produced opening voiceover runs ('Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper. You are live from the Path.').

  2. Bit 0:42 2 min

    Live show start and listening-on-the-toilet banter

    Ben opens the live show and welcomes listeners, joking about being heard in living rooms, cars, and bathrooms. The hosts riff on listening to podcasts while on the toilet and preferring closed captioning over sound for videos.

  3. 2:15 4 min

    Docket and Boova absence announcement

    • What are the seven chilling prophecies from the Bible that Christians cannot ignore?

    Ben announces Boova is out for a few weeks as he and his wife are new parents, with the Thrift Store's Priest filling his spot and possibly other rotating guests. He lays out the docket: seven chilling prophecies Christians cannot ignore, and a Baptist megachurch pastor who preached that the Bible says nothing against premarital sex.

  4. Testimony 6:07 16 min

    When you are done serving yourself: Ben's running-with-the-dog testimony

    • Am I serving God or serving myself in my ministry patterns?

    Ben recounts praying while out running with his dog about whether his life has settled into self-serving patterns, even in faithful ministry work. The phrase that struck him was: when you are ready to stop serving yourself, you can come serve me. The hosts respond: Mike shares a coffee-meeting story about spending time with God only for output versus relationship, and Dan reflects on pastors who teach truth they no longer believe, citing Colossae (Paul praying for a church he never visited) as a rebuke to self-interested prayer.

  5. 21:51 27 min

    Baptist pastor's 'no premarital sex prohibition' sermon dismantled

    • Does the Bible actually prohibit premarital sex, or does porneia only mean prostitution?

    Ben reads from an article on Dr. Delmon Coates of Mt. Anon Baptist Church (Clinton, Maryland), who argued in a 'Let's talk about sex' series that porneia (1 Cor 6) meant only prostitution, not premarital sex. Dan explains that by the time the New Testament was written, porneia had broadened to cover sexual behavior generally, including promiscuity and adultery, and the hosts argue Coates cherry-picks one word while skipping the Hebrew scriptures. Ben notes Scripture is not explicit against polygamy yet clearly portrays God's design as one man and one woman, and the hosts argue against twisting translation work to permit what people want to do, illustrated with a Matthew Perry interview about having it all and still feeling empty.

  6. 48:36 23 min

    Seven chilling prophecies Christians cannot ignore

    The hosts work through a listicle of chilling prophecies: the final judgment (Rev 20:15, book of life, lake of fire), false teachers with itching ears (2 Timothy 4:3-4, applied to the Coates sermon), trouble in the world (John 16:33), Peter's denial and spiritual pride (Luke 22:34, extended through David at Keilah in 1 Samuel 23), persecution from the religious establishment (John 16:2), the sheep and the goats (Matthew 25:41-46, serving the least of these), and the Lord-Lord warning (Matthew 7:21-23, 'I never knew you'). The USAID digression becomes a point about deferring service to systems: NPR reports nonprofits stepping in after government funding cuts, which the hosts take as the point, not an irony, and connect to gleaning from the Old Testament.

  7. Dear LFTP 1:11:26 10 min

    Dear LFTP: friend mistreats her stepson

    • How do I confront my friend about mistreating her stepson while maintaining the relationship?

    Mike reads a Dear LFTP letter from someone whose friend Sandra belittles her 14-year-old stepson and favors her four-year-old, asking how to raise the concern while keeping the friendship. Ben's instinct is to confront her directly; Dan suggests starting with gentle questions; Ben cautions that one-sided accounts are often unreliable and advises verifying the situation before confronting. The Secular answer suggests the writer research alternative situations for the boy or contact child protective services as a last resort.

  8. Dear LFTP 1:20:59 4 min

    Dear LFTP: husband's ex-fiancee memories

    • Am I overreacting to finding photos of my husband's elaborate proposal to his ex-fiancee?

    Mike reads a Dear LFTP letter from an eight-months-pregnant wife who found old photos of her husband with his ex-fiancee, including an elaborate proposal like the one he never gave her, and asks if she is overreacting. The hosts agree his dismissal ('let me just go back in time') was terrible but advise not trying to settle eight-year-old wounds right before the baby arrives, and that the husband should now give his current wife his best. The Secular answer suggests revisiting the subject after the child is born and not assuming his past effort means present indifference.

  9. 1:25:02 1 min

    Complaint line and sign-off

    Ben gives the Bob Eisenlauer complaint line number (515) 517-0085 for calls and texts, says the hosts have been hearing from more listeners than they realized, and signs off with 'be faithful to the means; God will handle the ends,' followed by a flubbed joke tag.

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