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No. 557 Season 2025 · Episode 8 · Recorded April 21, 2025

Pope Reese Bobby

9 conversations 1:32:30

In this episode

  1. 0:01 2 min

    Show open, gas-station snacks riff, and docket

    The produced voiceover opens from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper, then Ben does the live show start. The hosts riff on a new Reese's peanut-butter-and-jelly cup, gas-station impulse buys, and the FOMO of trying new snacks. Ben sets the docket: the pope has died, an observation about wishy-washy faith, Mike's nope-style advice, and Dear LFTP letters.

  2. 1:49 19 min

    Pope Francis has died: how the Church chooses the next pope

    • How does the Catholic Church choose the next pope after Francis's death?

    Ben reports that Pope Francis died today and the hosts dig into how a new pope is chosen: a two-to-three-week conclave of cardinals under 80, up to four secret votes a day with ballots sewn together, black smoke for no consensus and white smoke when two-thirds agree, and the new pope choosing his name. Ben contrasts Benedict and John Paul's theologian style with Francis's pastoral style (Francis of Assisi, care for the poor, peripheral cities, plain Vatican housing), jokes that Kenneth Copeland, Joel Osteen, and Jesse Duplantis in one room could never reach two-thirds, and closes saying that even though they are not Catholic, the pope's influence on how the world sees Jesus is worth praying for. Mike supplies Francis's full name, Jorge Mario Bergoglio.

  3. 21:09 22 min

    Wishy-washy faith and unstable lives

    • Why do wishy-washy faith patterns track with unstable life patterns, and how do you counsel someone in that cycle?

    Ben's observation: people whose faith seems wishy-washy often also show nonstandard, dramatic patterns in the rest of life — jobs never held long, chaotic relationships. Dan traces it to chaos-comfort: people raised in chaos can self-destruct when things go well because stability feels unfamiliar. Ben recalls the Talladega Nights 'I just gotta blow it up' bit to describe steering the plane into the ground to control the crash. Dan argues the fruit of the spirit — love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, self-control — means a mature believer can be comfortable out of chaos, and Mike warns against chasing spiritual highs and lows, since that keeps the self at the center instead of a consistent God. Ben lands it: feelings are real but don't get the loudest voice at the table; choose obedience for God's sake and for the people counting on you. The segment closes with the LFTP complaint line, (515) 517-0085.

  4. 43:33 12 min

    Nope-style advice: don't be idle while waiting on God

    Mike delivers his 'nope style advice' — the hosts had agreed that giving 'pope style advice' on the day of the Pope's death would feel crass. His point: people waiting on God for a health crisis, a wandering loved one, or a job tend to put their whole lives on hold, and that idleness becomes dangerous — by the time the answer comes, the waiting may have broken you. Ben sums it up as a bumper sticker: instead of waiting while God is working, be walking while God is working. Keep doing the faithful work in front of you while the answer tarries, because the macro Christian story is exactly this — a great promise not yet in fruition, walked toward in obedience.

  5. 55:39 10 min

    Before you fall out of love, you fall out of grace

    Ben shares what hit him in the shower on Easter Sunday morning: after a Mark Driscoll clip said 'before you fall out of love, you fall out of grace,' he realized he had lowered the bar of what it means to extend grace to his wife, kids, and friends. The hosts press in: grace is not just holding your tongue — it is a 70-times-seven heart posture that actively helps reconcile the other person, modeled on how God extends grace to us rather than demanding we first acknowledge how put out He is. Mike adds that grace doesn't mean avoiding hard truths; hard things can still be said from a reconciling heart.

  6. Dear LFTP 1:05:31 7 min

    Dear LFTP: the grandmother who can no longer lift the toddler

    • My mother can no longer lift my 16-month-old and calls me crazy for seeing it as a safety concern — how do I talk to her kindly but firmly?

    Mike reads the first Dear LFTP letter: a working mother whose own mother watched her 16-month-old one day a week but now says her back can't handle lifting him, and is pressuring her to 'train him' to climb into his own car seat — calling her crazy for treating it as a safety concern. The hosts agree the concern is valid: a 16-month-old can't be reliably left with a caregiver who can't pick him up in an emergency, and the grandmother seems to be reframing her limitations. Their counsel: find an able-bodied caregiver for the day, keep inviting grandma to visit while someone else is present. Mike reads the Secular answer: you are not crazy, tell her kindly but firmly, and hire the help.

  7. Dear LFTP 1:12:19 11 min

    Dear LFTP: the stepdaughter who wants to move in with her boyfriend

    • Why is my husband afraid to set boundaries with his 18-year-old daughter who wants to move in with her boyfriend and skip school?

    Mike reads the second Dear LFTP letter: a stepmother who finally gained custody of her husband's daughter Amelia at 15, got her on track to graduate, and now at 18 watches her plan to move in with her boyfriend and skip school — while her husband fears pressing the issue will push her away. Ben reframes it as control versus influence: she is 18 and can leave, so parenting shifts from forcing to consistent, predictable boundaries — 'your house is consistent' — with privileges tied to household rules, not anger. Mike reads the Secular answer: focus woman-to-woman on finishing her education rather than the move-out itself. Dan wonders what happened that custody changed at 16 after a homeschooling childhood.

  8. 1:23:43 6 min

    Parenting tangent: letting kids fail, and Ben's laundry story

    Spinning out of the stepdaughter letter, the hosts trade notes on teaching responsibility: alarm clocks kids must set themselves, lunches and band instruments not rescued at school. Ben tells his current laundry saga — after his wife flagged a load sitting four days, he took over all the household laundry and now runs it like a top, arguing his daughters will learn the skill in one college weekend and the logistics matter more than the lesson. Mike counters with his house's system: leave your laundry blocking the washer and the family dumps it on the floor.

  9. 1:29:51 3 min

    Outro: housekeeper gift, complaint line, and upcoming musical guests

    • What is a good gift for a longtime housekeeper — flowers, jewelry, or something else?

    Ben reads a complaint-line submission answering the earlier question about a gift for a longtime housekeeper: not flowers (they wilt) or jewelry (too romantic) — a real vacation, expensive enough to show the relationship matters. The hosts debate domestic versus Italy travel and land on Branson. Ben announces musical guests Air Nail and Dirk Von Stein coming in early May, then signs off with the show's benediction: be faithful in the means, God will handle the end.

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