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No. 515 Season 2023 · Episode 29 · Recorded December 18, 2023

Beyond Despacito

9 conversations 1:40:21

In this episode

  1. Bit 0:00 5 min

    Christmas cold open and merch pitch

    Christmas-week cold open: a Merry Christmas greeting (with a chicken joke at Boova's expense), the evening docket — a host's advent-devotional rant, Boova's carryover questions including John's treatment of Judas, a phone-free-church thought experiment, Christmas Bible trivia, and Dear LFTP. A shop plug follows: listenership is up, new listeners are morally guilted into buying merch, tri-blend shirts are endorsed, the hat supplier has disappeared, and beanies are requested.

  2. Hard question 5:24 19 min

    The phone-free church thought experiment

    A thought experiment from a Mere Orthodoxy piece: what if churches purged phones from public worship instead of just turning off livestreams? The hosts debate whether phones hinder thick community and ordinary conversation. Confessions follow — a TikTok ATM rabbit hole, checking the phone in the car until the clock has not moved a minute — alongside pushback that the phone is a symptom not a cause: busy schedules, lost third places, and pissing away unstructured time are the deeper problems. Teaching-from-a-phone vs. a paper Bible, notification distraction while playing bass, and using phone screenshots for teaching in Africa all get airtime. The discussion swerves into pastoral fragility: hosts now fear a call to repentance could push someone toward self-harm more than they used to.

  3. 24:43 5 min

    Daddy Yankee, Lil Nas X, and celebrity conversions

    Celebrity-conversion news roundup. Daddy Yankee, a writer of Despacito, has come to know the Lord and says he is giving up rapping: 'why would I wanna gain the whole world and forfeit my soul?' Rob Schneider has come to Catholicism. Lil Nas X has announced a 'Christian era' while saying it will not impact his sexuality — the hosts find it commercial, noting Tyrese Gibson's Instagram warning that people should stop playing with God. The segment lands on a caution: do not treat celebrity conversions as personal victories; the kingdom of heaven is not more excited because the soul is famous.

  4. Hard question 30:02 19 min

    Why is John's Judas so much harsher?

    Boova's carryover hard question: why does John's Gospel feel so much more aggressive toward Judas than the Synoptics — 'son of perdition,' the money-bag thief detail, 'Satan enters him'? The room works through possibilities: John wrote decades later, saw the ripple effects, and may have been personally irritated by a close friend's betrayal (the Paul Simon to Judas's Art Garfunkel). A competing theory — Judas was trying to force Jesus' hand into a Davidic, Solomon-style kingship — is found compatible with John: it is the same temptation Satan offers in Matthew 4 and the one behind 'get behind me, Satan' to Peter, except Judas persisted where Peter backed off. The discussion widens: is Judas exempt from forgiveness? Was he destined to betray? Parallels with Nebuchadnezzar and the hardening of Pharaoh's heart follow, and a host is comfortable with God subverting human free will — 'if I was asking another human to do it, this would be highly suspicious' — because he trusts God is good. The lying-spirit passage (1 Kings 22, though a host guesses Daniel), the Anne Frank thought experiment about lying to the SS, and the resurrection as the anchor for moral ambiguity round out the segment.

  5. Game 48:34 16 min

    Bible trivia: birth quiz and Paul's shipwreck

    Two Bible trivia quizzes. First, a 10-question Jesus'-birth quiz the hosts ace at 100 percent (average: 83 percent) — Jacob as Joseph's father, Gabriel, Simeon, Herod, Bethlehem, the angel to the shepherds, the star, silver as the non-gift, Egypt, Nazareth. Then the early-church category's worst-performing quiz: Paul's shipwreck (Acts 27), 12 questions. Guessing their way through — Cleophus (the Blues Brothers reverend) for the centurion instead of Julius, La Salle instead of Phoenix, Crete instead of Malta, 'we're not told' instead of 276 souls — they score 7 of 12 (59 percent), beating the 51 percent average but, as noted, 'a failing grade at any school in the country.'

  6. Bit 1:04:15 3 min

    Telethon dreams and festival memories

    Intermission business: a tease that a digital or playing-card version of the Secular vs. Solomon game is coming in 2024, a donate-button pitch (no advertisers because no one would agree to it), and a nostalgia trip over broadcasting 30 hours from the Spirit Midwest music festival — including a stranger who lent his phone as a hotspot for a full day. That memory sparks a half-serious plan: a 2024 LFTP telethon or 12-hour marathon, ideally for a real cause like an orphanage.

  7. Dear LFTP 1:07:21 4 min

    Dear LFTP: the 22-year-old and Gerald

    Dear LFTP: a 22-year-old has been dating a 55-year-old man, 'Gerald,' for a year and wants the relationship to be more than sex; his jealous ex-wife of 11 years is the only friction. The hosts are blunt: 'You are a piece of meat for him' — he is using her, will not meet her halfway, and she should raise her bar. One host suggests it screams of father issues and counsels finding her identity and worth in Jesus. The Secular answer: he is happy with the relationship as it is; she cannot make it work alone.

  8. Dear LFTP 1:11:18 6 min

    Dear LFTP: the wedding, the room, and the elderly relative

    Dear LFTP: a woman accepted a nephew's out-of-state wedding invitation, then the bride's mother — described as miserly and dishonest — assigned an elderly relative to her hotel room with unspoken expectations that she transport, dress, and monitor the relative. She declined and now regrets missing the wedding. The hosts say the barriers were not insurmountable — she could have booked her own $45 Motel 6 — and counsel not letting a doofus dictate your decisions: make the choice agnostic of someone else's buffoonery. The Secular answer defends her right to refuse; the hosts call that half the story.

  9. Dear LFTP 1:17:38 22 min

    Dear LFTP: the backseat-driver sister and the labels riff

    Dear LFTP: a retired man's slightly younger sister is a loud, aggressive backseat driver whose outbursts distract him. Advice ranges from reverse psychology (do the exact opposite of everything she says until she learns) to Dan's mischievous escalation to simply not taking her places. The Secular answer — she cannot help it — detonates a long riff on psychological labels: a host tells of picking up a hitchhiker in the snow whose Nintendo Switch directions fight ended with him walking home, then argues that labels like ADHD risk becoming shackles — 'I have this, therefore, I am this, as if it is not movable.' Object permanence and the garbage, depression and sad-boy self-talk, caffeine, sugar, pornography, heroin, overeating: the throughline is informed, not excused — almost every loss of control is preceded by fourteen decisions you could have made differently, so run early. The show closes on the standing benediction: 'be faithful in the means; God will handle the ends.'

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