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Live open, introductions, and the night's docket

Live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper. Speaker-1 introduces himself as Mike Foust and speaker-0 introduces himself as Ben Foust, the show's host, noting Dan Hudson is in the room and Big Ron is out tonight, with only two people present. They announce a round of Secular vs Solomon, explaining the game tests whether a bit of wisdom comes from the holy scriptures or the wisdom of the world, and preview a news item about a Texas pastor stepping away from preaching for a time.

Humility about God and the universe

A tangent about clips Dan posted from last week's show, including a middle-ground article on the big bang, becomes a reflection on humility: approach both the existence of God and the universe's origins admitting how little anyone knows. The point is driven home with the test that you understand something when you can recreate it — go ahead and make yourself a planet — and a French toast analogy.

The Matt Chandler Instagram-message news

The hosts read the news about Matt Chandler stepping away from preaching: frequent and familiar direct messages with a woman over Instagram were deemed unguarded and unwise, with the first red flag coming from a woman who approached him in the Village Church foyer; his wife and the woman's husband both knew about the messages, and Chandler agreed with the elders' assessment. Mid-discussion they plug the Bob Eisenlauer complaint line at (515) 517-0085 and a 'mullet' text-in bit tied to last week's guest Todd Gordon.

Accountability, eldership, and ministry boundaries

Discussion of how Chandler submitted to accountability, bringing the concern to another senior pastor and an elder who investigated, with a law firm confirming the messages crossed the church's stated social media policy. The hosts reflect that eldership is not a job but what a person is, citing the 'husband of one wife' qualification, and wrestle with boundaries with women in ministry — one host worries strict rules mean he can only love half the population — plus the risk of overloading young men so they can't hold a normal conversation.

Bumping into your own fence

A host frames personal safeguards as fences: you don't get rebuked for bumping into your own fence — the fence did its job — and warns against becoming pharisaical about safeguards, making it tough if people get in trouble just for hitting their own safety measures. The caution extends to outrage over every offense, illustrated by a joke about a homeschool mother offended by store-bought clothing.

Secular vs Solomon: drowning men, monkeys, and Proverbs 11:9

• A drowning man is not troubled by rain — secular or Solomon?
• A monkey never thinks her baby's ugly — secular or Solomon?

Secular vs Solomon begins with the Ben Franklin rule that 'God helps those who help themselves' is not biblical. Round one: 'A drowning man is not troubled by rain' is secular Iran; 'A monkey never thinks her baby's ugly' is secular Haiti, with a tangent about a news story of monkeys taking over somewhere; 'With his mouth, the godless man would destroy his neighbor, but by knowledge, the righteous are delivered' is Solomon, Proverbs 11:9. A running comedy bit about the sexually-transmitted-disease acronym threads through the segment, including a crisis-pregnancy-center visit.

Proverbs 12:25 and the two hotel managers

• Anxiety in a man's heart weighs him down, but a good word makes him glad — secular or Solomon?

The game continues: 'Anxiety in a man's heart weighs him down, but a good word makes him glad' is Solomon, Proverbs 12:25, leading into a reflection that an encouraging word can shake someone out of internal anxiety. A host recounts an internet clip about a hotel coffee worker who loved his job because managers constantly checked in asking how to help, contrasted with a second hotel that only pushed numbers — the takeaway being to build people up and call them up rather than reminding them how much they stink.

Secular vs Solomon: Kenya, Proverbs 14:21, slack hands, Norway

• Slippery ground does not recognize a king — secular or Solomon?
• Whoever despises his neighbor is a sinner, but blessed is he who is generous to the poor — secular or Solomon?

More game questions: 'Slippery ground does not recognize a king' is secular Kenya; 'Whoever despises his neighbor is a sinner, but blessed is he who is generous to the poor' is Solomon, Proverbs 14:21, with comedy around what counts as a poor neighbor; 'A slack hand causes poverty, but the hand of the diligent makes rich' is Solomon, Proverbs 10:4, prompting 'old slack hand' nickname comedy; 'The bear and the bear hunter have different opinions' is secular Norway, with a socialized-medicine joke.

Final question, the STD acronym, and game wrap

• Hunger is the best sauce — secular or Solomon?

The final question, 'Hunger is the best sauce,' is answered secular Rome after Dan's China guess, with blame pinned on the pope. A comedy bit follows about a supplementary-insurance business whose short-term-disability products trap everyone with the STD acronym, including 300 gonorrhea claims in a day. The game wraps with scoring — 72 points per correct answer, with a Pleasantville over-40 carve-out — and a note that after nearly a decade of play, unused proverbs are getting hard to find.

Dear LFTP: the brother moving to town

• Did my husband do anything wrong calling my friend's brother obnoxious, and should he befriend him now that he is moving to town?

The first Dear LFTP letter: during a virtual happy hour, the writer's friend Darlene suggested the writer and her husband Alex befriend Darlene's brother Roy, who is moving to the area; Alex answered honestly that he doesn't like Roy and finds him kind of obnoxious, and Darlene confronted the writer two weeks later calling Alex rude. The hosts land on getting out of the middle, defending the non-committal maybe, and making peace rather than holding principle — including swallowing pride and calling to say no offense was meant. The Secular answer says Alex was honest but should have been more tactful, should apologize for the lack of tact, but shouldn't be guilted into interacting with Roy again.

Dear LFTP: the dirty-old-man breakfast letter

• Is it wrong for me to keep buying breakfast for my single-mom neighbor?

The final Dear LFTP letter: the writer buys fast-food breakfast for his single-mom neighbor and her son on the way home from appointments, and his wife says stop or the neighbor will think he's a dirty old man. The hosts find it innocuous kindness, probing whether he's giving off any other weird vibe or his wife is overreacting, and conclude it is a kindness, done. The show closes with a complaint-line plug and a benediction.