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No. 411 Season 2020 · Episode 21 · Recorded September 21, 2020

Dudes Are Prone to Buffoonery

18 conversations 1:18:51

In this episode

  1. 0:02 1 min

    Show open from the Pathway Studios

    Produced intro music and voiceover, then a host opens the show live from the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper.

  2. 0:40 4 min

    Renaissance Festival story and what community feels like

    Mike recounts his return trip to the Renaissance Festival: the donut machine outside the gates, a passerby warning 'be alert, kind sir, the sheriff is about' played completely straight, and strangers complimenting each other's costumes. He reflects that the festival's total buy-in and warmth is a good picture of how a loving community operates, and Dan adds that a pirate-costumed woman showed up at church on her way to work the festival.

  3. 4:21 3 min

    Why Christian community feels more guarded

    • What keeps Christian community from feeling as free and warm as the Renaissance Festival?

    Ben asks what keeps Christian community from the festival's freedom. The hosts discuss how the festival carries no preconceived expectations (a wizard just has to be a wizard), while Christian community has a set way of living and long memories; Dan notes Christianity is real life rather than a weekend event, and the group talks about the happy masks people wear at church.

  4. 7:03 6 min

    Clashing personalities and learning to value differences

    • How do you learn to value a personality very different from your own instead of only judging its flaws?

    Ben tells of his two oldest kids not getting along because their strikingly different personalities irritate each other, and describes coaching them to name what is valuable in the other's personality rather than only its flaws. He extends the point to himself: his outgoing daughter talks to anybody and asks the second question, while he dodges people in Menards and once skipped saying hi to family at Village Inn to avoid small talk.

  5. 12:46 5 min

    The clock story: personality friction in marriage

    • How much should you bend to a spouse's personality versus expecting them to value yours?

    Ben tells a personal story: he and his wife tussled before the show because she loses track of the clock and he hates being late when he could have been on time. He works through how much to bend to her personality versus expecting her to value his, concluding that at year twelve of marriage his outrage at her lateness is misplaced even when it is accurate, and that personalities should be recognized without being codified into excuses. Mike answers with the laundry-pile analogy: some things simply never register as a problem to him.

  6. 17:28 4 min

    Laundry blind spots and the towel stairs

    Mike describes walking past a 95%-full garbage can without registering it and only acting once his wife says it is time. Dan tells of his new habit of tossing dirty towels down the stairs, his wife politely asking him to stop, and then doing it again the same day and texting an apology from the studio. Mike commiserates, saying he sits in Dan's seat a lot: intending to do better and failing anyway.

  7. 21:23 4 min

    Hyper-focus on depravity versus grace

    Ben argues that a hyper-religious focus on human sinfulness distracts from the nature of humanity: a half truth stretched into a whole truth becomes an untruth. Dan throwing the towels is true and worth repenting of, but making it the sole focus misrepresents his heart. He contrasts reformed thought's emphasis on the transaction Jesus executed with the relationship Jesus initiated, noting Luke's gospel frames kingdom entry as humbling yourself and submitting to Jesus as king.

  8. 25:05 2 min

    Why we do what we don't want to do

    • Why do we keep doing the things we don't want to do?

    Mike picks up Paul's question, why do I keep doing the things I don't want to do, and notes the offended party's view: nobody accidentally cheats or steals, so repeated small failures reveal what we actually value. He illustrates with his own collapsed plan to read a chapter of Romans every morning, dead by day one at 5:45am, joking that 'Mike is the Christian' who talks big Sunday night.

  9. 26:58 3 min

    Behavior modification versus heart transformation

    Ben says he dislikes behavior modification and wants heart transformation in his kids: he can demand kind words, but the deeper worry is whether his kids actually like each other. He reflects that he is a better, less selfish husband than fifteen years ago, not by magic but by recognizing where his actions don't align with his stated love and being intentional about changing. Dan adds that the flesh and the inner soul really are at odds, and we often love ourselves more in the moment.

  10. 30:21 5 min

    The bounce and the because-I-don't-want-to graph

    Dan references the book Every Man's Battle and its 'bounce' technique for sexual temptation: the moment your eyes land where they shouldn't, you bounce away. Ben applies the bounce to household life, admitting he bounces his eyes off the garbage can and laundry to avoid responsibility, and confesses he intended to join his wife's 6:30am outdoor Bible reading but stayed in bed. Mike reframes the Christian walk as the Holy Spirit gradually shrinking the 'because I don't want to' pie graph, though we wall off rooms we refuse to surrender.

  11. 35:32 4 min

    Ambitions versus moments; do women struggle too?

    • Do women struggle with the intentions-versus-actions gap the same way men do?

    Ben pushes back on 'if you really wanted to, you would do it,' arguing that what we aspire to gets destroyed by moment-by-moment choices, and cites the adulterer who truly loves his spouse yet makes a terrible choice. He lands on discipline: you don't need discipline to guard your ambitions, you need it to guard your seconds, because every failure came from choosing self in some tired, hungry, or lazy moment. He then asks the other fellas point-blank whether women struggle with the same thing.

  12. Bit 39:26 7 min

    Dudes are daft; sanctification as falling scales

    Mike embraces the premise that men are daft, describing his own daily embarrassment at failing simple intentions, complete with an imaginary mariachi band fanfare ('here comes Mike'), and says his own small failures give him compassion for people battling addictions. Ben notes heroin at least rewires the body while Mike has no such excuse, then reflects that sanctification is a continuous falling of scales: God refines one area, then reveals the next. Mike jokes that Dan gets a rotating bucket of fifteen mishaps to work on, and the segment closes with an offer of free marriage counseling on Mondays after 10:30.

  13. 46:21 2 min

    An appeal to the women listening

    Ben turns to the women listening and asks directly: do you share these struggles, or do you hide them so your husband feels like a bigger boob? He grants that a good husband may simply not see what matters to his wife rather than willfully ignoring it, while noting his wife somehow juggles awareness of everything at once.

  14. 47:58 8 min

    Trusting your spouse with your boundaries

    Mike illustrates daft male problem-solving: deciding to take the garbage out daily and burning through $75 of bags rather than addressing the real issue. Ben argues there is value in gendered singular focus, citing inventors who tinker for five hours, and says maturity means trusting your spouse to speak into your life without taking offense. He dismantles 'you don't know what it's like to be me' as permission to dismiss truth, telling his kids: 'baby, I'm a pastor, that's my whole job' — pointing people to true things he often doesn't get right himself.

  15. 55:54 5 min

    Eddie Andrews interview, Amazon podcasts, Alexa prank

    Ben announces two things: a bonus interview episode with Eddie Andrews, who is running to represent the Johnston, Grimes, Urbandale, and Jefferson Township area of Iowa (eddieforiowa.com; Mike and Dan conducted the interview without Ben), and that Amazon has added podcasts to its music app so listeners can ask Alexa to play the show. This triggers an on-air Alexa prank with three max-volume 5:30am alarms, plus Mike's story of sneaking to a host's kitchen window to set alarms, and a riff on how unsearchable the show's name is.

  16. Dear LFTP 1:01:08 9 min

    Dear LFTP: the hairdresser's brother and the relapse

    • Should I confront my hairdresser about not disclosing her brother's crack cocaine relapse sooner, or let it go?

    Ben cues advice time and Mike reads a Dear LFTP letter from a widowed listener: her hairdresser, former neighbor, and friend recommended her unemployed brother for home repairs and nudged a relationship, then revealed the brother is back on crack cocaine. The hosts agree the sister had no duty to disclose a past relapse sooner, that it is not the listener's story to tell, and that she should let it go and keep her hairdresser. Mike then reads the Secular answer ('call the police,' 'do you own a whip?'), which advises asking calmly but being less available, prompting a mock passive-aggressive breakup skit.

  17. Dear LFTP 1:09:46 7 min

    Dear LFTP: the no-show relatives and the catered dinners

    • How should we greet relatives who RSVP'd to our party, never showed, and never explained, nine months ago?

    Mike reads a second Dear LFTP letter: relatives RSVP'd to a hosted party last year, never showed, gave no reason, and the hosts paid for their dinners; how should they greet them at an upcoming event? The hosts counsel just saying hello normally, note nine months of silence makes the grudge petty, and joke about Dan-and-Ben's move of running away. The Secular answer calls the relatives rude and inconsiderate and advises a calm confrontation plus guest-list removal, which the hosts mock as queen-of-Tibet energy. The discussion widens into Facebook-generation expectations of constant updates and a riff on churches publicly shaming absent members and interrupting worship for giving appeals.

  18. 1:17:14 2 min

    Sign-off and the complaint line

    Ben closes the show, inviting feedback on the Bob Eisenlauer complaint line (transcript renders 'Eisenhower') at 515-517-0085 and asking listeners to rate the show. He repeats the appeal to women listeners about the daftness discussion. Mike worries aloud about his wife hearing the episode before he can explain the mariachi band jokes. Ben signs off with the show's catchphrase: be faithful in the means, God will handle the ends.

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