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No. 408 Season 2020 · Episode 18 · Recorded June 15, 2020

Gone, Gone Boova

16 conversations 1:55:30

In this episode

  1. 0:00 7 min

    Show open: clapping tic, underpants, and the lineup

    The show opens with banter about a host's new involuntary clapping tic, aging bodies, and an underpants upgrade, then reveals Boova is getting married in three months. The lineup is teased: Mike's interactive Pope-style quiz on plausible reality and Boova's question about TikTok evangelism.

  2. 7:12 11 min

    Barbecue Baptist Church and the Pathway cookout

    A host reads a Christian Post article about the First Baptist Church of Navasota, Texas — the 'Barbecue Baptist Church' — serving barbecue and the gospel to first responders, including pneumatic guns that launch toilet paper wrapped in scripture verses. The hosts contrast gimmicky outreach with Pathway Church's own low-key burger cookout at a local apartment complex, where no shirts, signs, or verses were displayed and long unforced conversations happened. The takeaway: be yourself, let your real life extend to others, don't fake it or suppress it.

  3. 17:43 1 min

    Appreciating Dan's just-try-it ministry style

    A host praises Dan's ministry instinct to just try things instead of overthinking them, holding up the cookout as an example of acting on basic truths about people, God, and serving others without needing to know every outcome in advance.

  4. Hard question 18:51 6 min

    Boova explains TikTok and going live

    Boova explains TikTok to the room: 15-to-60-second videos, duets, virality, and the separate 'going live' feature that requires 1,000 followers. He describes his own small presence — about 5,000 followers, one video at 350,000 views — and the token system that has put $40 in his PayPal from livestreams, where viewers tip creators with emoji tokens of varying value.

  5. Hard question 24:46 13 min

    TikTok faith conversations, the ban, and the verdict

    • Is going live on TikTok a valid way to talk to people about Jesus?
    • Why would God allow the coronavirus pandemic and racial injustice?

    Boova describes late-night TikTok lives where strangers ask about his faith — why God allows the pandemic and racial injustice — and the surprisingly good conversations that result, including regulars from Saudi Arabia and the UAE. He reveals he was permanently banned from going live after a 2:09 a.m. session reading the Bible for a wedding sermon, with no explanation of the infractions. The room concludes TikTok is valid evangelism but not discipleship — like a traveling preacher, it cannot replace the local church. A 'nine lives' joke from Ben and a complaint-line plug close the bit.

  6. 37:41 4 min

    Complaint line: Bob Eisenlauer finally sells a house

    The complaint line — sponsored by Bob Eisenlauer (rendered 'Eisenhower' in the transcript) — gets a plug, and a host tells how Bob finally sold him a house after ten years of knocking, calling about an off-market listing that led to an accepted offer the same night.

  7. Bit 41:16 4 min

    The swing set beam and the pope mix-up

    A host tells the saga of buying a swing set on Facebook Marketplace with a 20-foot beam hanging out of a plateless truck, flagged with a pink tank top from Walmart, and getting pulled over in Huxley. The officer asks if the beam is 'for the platform... for the pope,' which leads the host to Mike's house, where a crowd has gathered on the lawn believing the Pope is coming and two donkeys are holding them back.

  8. 45:18 10 min

    Mike's Pope style: the plausible-reality quiz and advice

    Mike's Pope-style bit (identified as his in the intro, though the diarization label here is merged and unreliable, so no speaker_id is asserted): an interactive quiz asking whether the room has known a cheating spouse, a child abuser, or a transformed life they initially refused to believe — establishing 'plausible reality,' the set of things we cannot imagine because we have never experienced them. The monologue applies it to race and policing: one population cannot imagine race mattering at a job interview while another cannot imagine it not mattering. The Pope-style advice: admit your reality is not everyone's, stay open to others', and lay your freedoms down in service of Yahweh and the people around you.

  9. 54:59 10 min

    Police training video, privilege, and profiling

    A host recounts a news video of an African American protest leader invited into a police training, who shot first in every scenario and left humbled — evidence both sides have room to be humbled. The room discusses privilege and profiling, including a joke about serial killers having facial hair, Boova's account of being the most privileged demographic and his one profiling experience (pulled over, gun drawn, zip-tied), and the no-win pressure of being called racist for his skin color. The landing point: empathy needs to abound on all sides; everyone involved is a person.

  10. 1:04:55 9 min

    Kingdom allegiance over labels and movements

    The hosts warn against the rush to align with labels, movements, or hashtags under social pressure, arguing Christians are released from that pressure and answer only to the kingdom of Jesus. Where a movement aligns with kingdom values — the worth of people, godly justice, mercy — join it; where it stops, leave. A host admits to being double-minded, tossed by every confident voice, and offers the filter: does it align with the principles of the kingdom?

  11. 1:13:32 2 min

    Boova's departure is announced

    The show announces this is Boova's last episode: he is leaving town, has found a woman, has work lined up, and is moving on. A goofy sign-off bit for 'Japanese listeners' and a Zach Hauck callback precede the news.

  12. Dear LFTP 1:15:32 7 min

    Dear LFTP: the uninvited grandmother

    • Was I wrong to suggest combining my granddaughter's wedding and the family party?

    Dear LFTP: a grandmother writes that her granddaughter is marrying privately with no family invited but wants a pre-wedding party; the grandmother suggested combining them, the granddaughter stopped talking to her, and she asks if she was wrong. The verdict is blunt — 'too late, you meddling cow' — with advice to apologize, stop making it about herself, and simply show up happy for them. The Secular answer agrees she should not personalize it but oddly says there is no need to mend fences, which a host disputes with a story about apologizing to a neighbor kid he had shushed.

  13. Dear LFTP 1:22:03 12 min

    Dear LFTP: the household chore divide

    • Should I let the household-chore imbalance go, or are my priorities misplaced?

    Dear LFTP: a working mother of two does nearly all the household chores while her husband deflects; she asks whether to let it go or whether her priorities are misplaced. The twofold advice: if nobody can meet your standards, that is partly on you — but the husband signed up for the home and owes her real service, with humility on both sides. A host shares his 35-year marriage's ebb and flow of chore division, another admits to being the husband who does not see the laundry, and the room lands on grace plus honest communication. The Secular answer suggests giving the husband a choice: participate more or hire help.

  14. Testimony 1:34:31 9 min

    Tributes to Boova

    The hosts pay tribute to Boova: his honesty and transparency, his willingness to walk into traps and name his own failures, and the courage that takes. One recalls watching him grow from a 'complete fake' into the real deal and an almost-fistfight with Mike Fust in a parking lot over Boova's behavior; another says losing him is like losing a family member. The room agrees there is no replacement for him.

  15. Testimony 1:43:16 11 min

    Boova's farewell speech

    Boova gives his farewell: he joined the show at 18, fresh off losing his dad, prideful and hoping for fame, and the show and its people discipled him into a husband-to-be moving to Pittsburgh. He tells the Herrick gas-station story — Herrick following him through the store, mirroring his fake healthy purchases, then saying 'throw it away' until Boova faced his food idol — and confesses to once eating twenty free hot dogs in his car after a show. He credits the hosts as the big brothers and father figures who made his future possible.

  16. 1:54:15 1 min

    Outro: prayer for Boova

    The show closes with the complaint line number, a call to give Boova love on social media, a request for prayer over his disorienting move, and the sign-off: be faithful in the means, God will handle the ends.

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