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No. 380 Season 2019 · Episode 20 · Recorded September 2, 2019

Fascinating or Not Fascinating

14 conversations 1:08:31

In this episode

  1. 0:02 1 min

    Show open from the Pathway Studios

    The show opens with the produced intro giving way to the live start: a host reads the 'you are listening to Live From The Path from the Pathway studios in Johnston proper' open, followed by a joking cold-open line about hating the intro music.

  2. Testimony 0:39 1 min

    Asking God which worship songs to play

    Mike (self-identified in the audio as 'a Prideful Mike') describes a change in his worship leading: he now asks God which songs to play on Sundays instead of picking favorites himself, and reports that on several occasions a congregant broke down crying or laughing because the song met what the Lord was already doing in them.

  3. 1:14 1 min

    Show rundown: Mike's diary closes, tonight's lineup

    A host closes the 'Mike's diary' bit and runs the night's lineup: seven allegedly fascinating insights into where pastors prepare sermons, ten reasons not to quit youth ministry, and advice letters on Dear LFTP.

  4. Bit 1:38 4 min

    Youth-ministry theme and the Google autocomplete riff

    • Why should I continue in youth ministry?

    A host admits he walked in thinking he should quit youth ministry; the other hosts address him as Ben. The crew then riffs on Google autocomplete for 'why should I continue...' — living, youth ministry, youth football, the Indian Army — joking that Reddit would give terrible answers and that they need to pry into people's lives more.

  5. 5:48 5 min

    Seven insights on where pastors prepare sermons: 'unfascinating'

    Ben reads a listicle of seven 'fascinating insights' into pastors' sermon-prep locations — personality-driven, church office least favorite, coffee shops popular, rarely silent, the 5 a.m. Monday pastor — while the hosts vote each one 'fascinating' or 'unfascinating'. Nearly everything is judged unfascinating; Ben, who preaches straight from Scripture without a manuscript, notes he does not write a sermon at all.

  6. 10:49 4 min

    Nugget of wisdom: take a Sabbath and rest

    Responding to the sermon-prep list, the hosts trade a nugget of wisdom: one of the Ten Commandments is to take a Sabbath and get rest, and rest is what lets you connect with God and pray. Coffee shops fail as prep spaces because of distractions and the urge to look busy instead of sitting and focusing.

  7. 14:42 15 min

    Ten reasons not to quit youth ministry, part 1

    The hosts read and debate the first seven reasons: most believers trust Christ by 18; the joke claim 'Jesus was a youth leader'; every major U.S. spiritual awakening had teenagers on the leading edge; the UN calls this the largest youth generation in history; the average teen has 400 reachable friends; and the claim that if people believe the gospel they will spread it without equipping tactics — 'no equipping, just good news.' A tangent on Amtrak's history with freight rail interrupts the list.

  8. 29:49 12 min

    Ten reasons not to quit youth ministry, part 2: burnout is ownership

    The final reasons spark the deepest pushback: 'set a teen on fire' is challenged as a bad metaphor for igniting passion, and 'God loves to use the foolish things of the world' (1 Cor 1:27-28) draws a defense of teenagers as trying hard, not silly. The hosts land on youth-ministry burnout as an ownership problem — you can only burn out over what you think is yours — and close with a triangle: God, the world, and them.

  9. Bit 41:25 2 min

    Grocery-store run-in with Ben and the pope rumor

    A host tells of running into Ben at the grocery store while buying steak fajita ingredients, which makes him angrier about the running rumor that Ben is the pope — 'everybody says it's the pope' — countered with the joke that the pope has three beds and a bath.

  10. Bit 42:57 1 min

    The porch pontiff wave introduces 'embrace reality'

    Ben explains how he tried to kill the pope rumor: he went out on his front porch, gave the crowd a pontiff wave, and told them to embrace reality and want what is real — the seed of the night's main teaching.

  11. 44:09 11 min

    Teaching: embrace reality — compromise is rightsizing, not losing

    Ben's extended teaching: we should want what is true more than anything. 'Compromise' is misnamed — it is rightsizing your reality, because what you gave up was never going to happen anyway ('you can't lose what you didn't actually have'). Illustrated with an architect-design dispute, a breakup with a jerk, and the plea to let God strip away every false pretense, even when the truth comes through criticism you hate to hear. The other hosts add that pride falls away when you deal in real things, and that humility means wanting the best outcome regardless of the source.

  12. Dear LFTP 55:17 6 min

    Dear LFTP: the townhouse neighbor's cigarette smoke

    • What can we say or do so we can enjoy our decks and open windows despite our neighbor's cigarette smoke?

    A listener in a four-townhome development with a relaxed HOA writes that a new neighbor smokes outside at all hours, ruining the others' decks and open windows. The hosts push back on the low complaint threshold — you bought close quarters — then read the Secular answer: with no manager and a tiny HOA this is a long-term relationship, so raise it neighborly alongside other matters; the real solution may be as simple as her walking a few steps farther.

  13. Dear LFTP 1:00:58 7 min

    Dear LFTP: cancelled wedding — do we ask for the air fryer back?

    • Should we ask for our wedding gift back after the wedding was cancelled?

    A listener asks whether to request reimbursement or return of a wedding gift (an air fryer) after their grandniece's April 2018 wedding was cancelled a week out when she caught her fiance cheating. The hosts' verdict: let it go — the gift was given, the ship has sailed, and the bride has bigger wounds; one host shares that after his own broken engagement he returned a donation and was told to keep it. The Secular answer: wedding gifts are not consolation prizes.

  14. 1:07:29 1 min

    Outro: the complaint line

    The show closes with the complaint line number, (515) 517-0085 — open to positive and negative comments, 'named it for what it's most likely' — a 'stay classy,' and a hope that anyone thinking of quitting youth ministry feels reinvigorated.

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