Why Ladies Cheat
In this episode
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Show open from the Pathway studios
The hosts trade the show's intro lines live ('Live' / 'from' / 'the Pathway Studios in Johnston proper') and welcome the listener. Brief, upbeat cold open.
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Agenda: Nate Baird out sick, Wings of Refuge interview postponed
A host explains tonight's plan changed: guest Nate Baird — who has been fundraising for Wings of Refuge, a ministry that helps sex-trafficking survivors transition back into society — fell ill, so the interview is rescheduled. With no guest, the show becomes a short episode built around a CNN article on the changing reasons women cheat that a host has been meaning to cover.
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Sex-trafficking talk: stings, the Exodus Road, and how it gets facilitated
- How does sex trafficking actually get facilitated — who connects buyers and sellers?
Ahead of the rescheduled interview, the hosts talk about sex trafficking: Mike says he wants to be on a sting taking traffickers down, another host doubts he could endure the undercover part, Mike tells of a recent Exodus Road operation in India (a girl escaped, they freed another and arrested three men within hours), and they wonder how trafficking is even facilitated — the dark web, Craigslist fronts — admitting they plan to ask their future guests.
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Article: the changing reasons women cheat
- Is the nonchalance about infidelity surprising — treating affairs as a legitimate way to stay married?
- What has changed about monogamy or family life to account for the rising rate of female infidelity?
Mike introduces the CNN article ('The Changing Reasons Why Women Cheat on Their Husbands'); a host reads it aloud. Key facts: psychoanalyst Esther Perel's 'State of Affairs' notes reported female infidelity is up 40% since 1990 while the male rate held steady; the article's author recounts friends matter-of-factly confessing overlapping affairs and emotional affairs. Mike asks the table whether anything about this surprises them — especially the nonchalance.
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Reaction: marriage as contract vs. covenant
The hosts push back on the article's frame. One host says women treating affairs as a way to 'stay married' is like running a marathon by taxi and claiming you finished; another says marriage has three possible postures — submit the marriage to God, serve your spouse, or be in it for your own needs — and the article's women chose the contractual third option: 'if you're not supplying the goods, I'll get them from a different supplier.' A host sums up the crux: the modern idea that marriage exists to fulfill my needs.
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Article continued: invisible labor and Alicia Walker's research
The reading continues: sociologist Alicia Walker's forthcoming book (40 interviews with women who used Ashley Madison) found many were in functional marriages but resented disproportionate 'invisible labor'; caretaking muffles erotic desire. A host agrees husbands who act like another child can't be surprised their wives resent it, and Dan argues the church's 'meet your spouse's needs' sermon series backfired by turning needs into a weapon. The hosts joke about mowing, oil changes, and sock piles.
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Article continued: affairs as 'plan B' and blaming the institution
The article argues some women now treat infidelity as a 'third way' — a plan B short of divorce — and questions why women still marry. Mike delivers a direct-address rant ('Now listen to me, you lazy bastard'): two people pining to do what's best for each other is what marriage is; the institution isn't broken, the participation is — 'you're using the car wrong,' like blaming the front seat while riding backwards. A host adds that marriage doesn't provide love or stability; the person you're bound to does, so choose carefully.
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Article wrap: how widespread is this, really?
The hosts land the article: they doubt the article's sample is representative ('we're in a Christian little bubble'), note it takes a perfect storm of no faith plus confidence (and often alcohol or an out-of-town environment) to pull this off, and one host says he simply won't be alone in a room with another woman when traveling — accountability by design. The article is retired from the to-read list.
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Dear LFTP: the 'nagging wife' and the 30-year-old carpet
- Is it asking too much to have these things done inside my home after so many years? (replacing 30-year-old carpet)
Mike reads a listener letter: married 45 years, the wife wants the 30-year-old original carpet replaced (money is no issue) but her husband gripes about every project; she asks if she's asking too much. The hosts say order the carpet and hire movers — don't make him move furniture — and note she probably nags about more than remodels; one host adds that if women don't want to mother their husbands, they should stop mothering them. The Secular answer agrees: nothing lasts forever, make a deal.
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Dear LFTP: both testicles removed, seeking a support group
- Do you know of any support groups for men like me — men who had both testicles removed without cancer?
Mike reads a listener letter from a man who had both testicles removed (not cancerous) and can't cope, asking for a support group for 'men like me.' The hosts are baffled — 'you had your balls removed for apparently no reason at all' — suggest asking his doctor for a referral, compare it to mastectomy/hysterectomy, and riff on prosthetic replacements ('fishing weights,' 'nudicle'). The Secular answer says to start with the doctor who did the procedure and keep an open mind about cancer-survivor groups.
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Dear LFTP: declining invitations without lying
- What can I say to decline an invitation I can't afford that won't hurt anyone's feelings or get me caught in a lie?
Mike reads a letter from a listener cutting expenses who feels embarrassed declining invitations and wants wording that won't hurt feelings or require lying. The hosts' advice: just say 'I can't make it' — there is no magic phrase nobody gets offended by, close friends will ask for the real reason anyway, don't lie, and quit living in fear of hurt feelings. The Secular answer agrees it's not shameful to admit money is tight, blaming Dave Ramsey is acceptable.
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Sign-off: no show next week, Wings of Refuge rescheduled
The hosts close out: listener mail goes to the show's email (good thoughts) or to Chris Roloff (bad thoughts, jokingly); there will be no show next week, after which they hope to catch up with the Wings of Refuge folks to learn about sex trafficking and how good news changes the world there. Sign-off line: 'be faithful in means, God will handle the ends.'