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No. 33 Season 2010 · Episode 33 · Recorded October 25, 2010

Why Do I Need To Go To Church?

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In this episode

  1. 0:01 1 min

    Show open

    Produced intro voiceover ('From Wolfshoot Studios, Downtown Des Moines'); the host introduces himself on air as Ben Foost and trades shared-womb jokes with a co-host.

  2. Bit 1:09 3 min

    Opening banter: cranky dads and physiology gags

    The hosts riff on dads who punish kids for waking them up, being cranky when woken (Olsen is named as famously cranky), and a long bit about why a prosthetic eyeball wouldn't move.

  3. 4:06 5 min

    Juan Pablo Velasquez news and political ad mockery

    A Des Moines Register story (blog post by Tom Alex) about Juan Pablo Velasquez being arrested mid-haircut leads into a long mockery of cheesy political attack ads, plus an eyebrow-hair gag and a Sixth Sense-style farm-chemical radio spot one host loves.

  4. Bit 9:34 2 min

    Pathway Church toilet commercial pitch

    A host pitches a church ad: camera on a man on the toilet reading shampoo bottles, reaching for a Bible — cut to 'Pathway Church.' The others pan it, and note the women in the room already vetoed the idea.

  5. 12:03 1 min

    Show agenda

    • Can you follow Christ without being part of the church?
    • What should a follower of Christ expect from a church?

    The host lays out the night: bathroom commercials, the main question of whether you can follow Christ without being part of the church, and a teaser about Mike's trouble with wind direction.

  6. 13:14 10 min

    Woman marries herself in Taipei

    The hosts read and riff on a China Post story about Chen Weiye, a 30-year-old Taipei office worker who married herself in a full white-dress ceremony with 30 guests, calling it non-binding.

  7. Bit 23:37 5 min

    Praying dog video and cinnamon rolls

    The show airs a viral video of a dog 'saying grace' (voiceover prayer, set to Third Day's 'Born Again'), then the hosts eat cinnamon rolls brought from the Holiday Inn Express and joke about the free breakfast.

  8. 28:18 3 min

    Street interviews: why people skip church

    The show plays a man-on-the-street video from Cartersville where passersby say they don't need church — 'religion is private,' 'hypocrites,' 'many paths to God' — then frames the night's question from it.

  9. Hard question 31:46 7 min

    Biblical basis of the church

    The hosts discuss Acts 4, the church as Christ's body and bride, and how denominations and branding grew out of pride and followings around teachers' styles (Ben's, Mike's, and Dan's approaches are named as examples).

  10. Hard question 38:33 5 min

    Home churches and Sunday guilt

    • Should you feel guilty about not showing up on Sunday?

    Chat questions: the rise of home churches, whether to feel guilty skipping Sunday when meeting other times, and small groups as enrichment rather than obligation.

  11. Hard question 43:33 2 min

    Must a church have a recognized pastor?

    • Must a church have a recognized pastor?

    A chat question on whether a church needs a titled pastor; the hosts land on biblical precedent for leadership exercised through spiritual gifts, while warning pastors can become a church's worst enemy through ego and turf.

  12. Hard question 45:30 6 min

    You can't be a body on your own

    The hosts argue you can't follow Christ solo — likened to a severed finger kept in an underwear drawer — and unpack accountability versus judgment, and why people avoid the Bible and church to dodge the consequences of sin.

  13. Hard question 51:44 9 min

    Watered-down, marketing-driven churches

    The hosts charge that churches water down truth to draw crowds, market like businesses, and get shopped like consumer products; they recall the rich young ruler and 'let the dead bury the dead,' and remember a first-time visitor named Jason.

  14. Hard question 1:00:20 2 min

    What to look for in a church

    • What should you look for in a church?

    The hosts say a church's first job is connecting people to Christ and growing them, and that members should be free to serve with their gifts — even a pottery class, if that's how people meet the Lord.

  15. 1:02:12 3 min

    Q-tip ear story and bean-counting

    A host confesses he jammed a Q-tip in his ear before Sunday's first service and preached half-deaf, then pivots to the trap of bean-counting attendance and apologizing for unimportant things like acoustic week.

  16. Hard question 1:05:16 4 min

    The church family you lose by opting out

    • What is the main disadvantage of not being part of a church body?

    The main cost of skipping church, the hosts say, is losing the family — who's at the hospital, who calls out your blind spots — with a callback to the shared-womb gag and Ben named as the one who'd call you out.

  17. Testimony 1:08:47 4 min

    Church hopping and a Pathway testimony

    • Is it wrong to leave a church and look for one where you connect?

    A host tells how he first came to Pathway — asked by Troy to fill in on piano, put off by the auditorium, the tall pastor and the sermon topic — and stayed; the rule: it's fine to move churches, but evaluate for biblical core values, not chairs.

  18. Bit 1:12:42 5 min

    Pre-blessed food sketch and show plugs

    The show airs the 'Pre-blessed food' comedy commercial, then plugs lifefromthepath.org, the newsletter and YouTube channel, with a bit where 'Mike' calls in about business cards.

  19. 1:17:14 4 min

    Westboro Baptist's constellation of hate sites

    A host recounts browsing Westboro Baptist Church's many websites (barackbeast.com and the like, every post signed 'Godsmack!') and marvels at the slick web design wrapping deplorable content.

  20. Hard question 1:21:17 2 min

    Summary: even the lone missionary is in the body

    Summing up: you can't follow Christ and opt out of the church — even a lone deep-cover missionary in Uganda is still part of the body, supported by it, and owes the body his gifts.

  21. Bit 1:23:04 10 min

    Window-washer evangelism role play

    • How do you respond to someone who says they can worship God at home?

    The hosts role-play witnessing to a window washer at a coffee shop who says he can worship God at home — cycling through bad rebuttals ('God hates church sissies') before landing a workable, honest invitation to Pathway Church in Johnston.

  22. 1:33:20 4 min

    Next week: Christ-curious 101, plus Vance Lambert

    • Where do I start if I am Christ-curious or have walked away from God?

    Preview of next week's 'Christ-curious 101' for seekers and returners, plus news that Vance Lambert — a friend of the show — will appear on the Christian Music Awards on TBN, playing guitar with Robert Mouti.

  23. Hard question 1:37:18 7 min

    Is downloading a lost CD piracy?

    • Is it piracy to download a broadcast show you missed or a CD you lost?

    The hosts debate whether downloading a broadcast show you missed, a lost CD, Citizen Kane or E.T. is stealing — with a wrecked-car analogy — and mostly conclude it's wrong, detouring through julio.com and peacoats.

  24. 1:44:11 7 min

    Fight stories

    • Have you ever gotten into a fistfight?

    The hosts trade almost-fight stories: a third-grade run-in with Joey Osborne, a construction-site confrontation, a Godfather's Pizza parking-lot rumble, and a windshield-ice prank — closing with a reading of James on the tongue.

  25. 1:51:02 4 min

    Trash dive and the northeast wind

    • Does a northeast wind come from the northeast or go toward it?

    A host reports his trash-dive haul (scroll saw, drill, drill press) and an unsold salon chair headed back to eBay, then the hosts tangle over what a 'northeast wind' means and whether wind can change direction.

  26. 1:54:47 3 min

    Halloween jokes and a Christian take

    • Is it okay for Christian children to participate in Halloween?

    Cloud and knock-knock jokes from a host's three-year-old daughter Grace, then the hosts' Christian take on Halloween: nothing with death, Satan or evil — fun costumes and nursing-home visits are fine.

  27. Music 1:57:21 3 min

    Sign-off and closing song

    Final plugs for lifefromthepath.org, the newsletter and YouTube (performances by Vance Lambert, Jeff Arendelle, Cinder of Fire), next Monday's 10pm–midnight show on desmoinesamplified.com, and a closing song performance.

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