July 20 2015 Podcast – Driven 11
In this episode
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Show open and Boova's comb bit
A host opens the show from the Pathway Studios and riffs on a comb left in the studio by Boova, addressed by name in the audio; the hosts joke about Boova's beard, hipster drift, and a beard-product subscription.
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Show rundown: guest, pope style, Dear LFTP, Family Leadership Summit
A host previews the show: musical guest Dominic Cox of Driven Eleven, a pope-style advice bit, Dear LFTP letters (one host asks Mike about them), and a possible reaction to the Family Leadership Summit he attended.
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Sponsor read: Bob Eisenlauer and the Eisenlauer team
A host thanks Bob Eisenlauer, the show's realtor sponsor (transcript renders 'Eisenhower'), tells a story about a rival listing next to Bob's office, and jokes that Boova is leaving the country for a month.
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Guest intro: Dominic Cox of Driven Eleven
- Why are churches stagnant?
The hosts introduce guest Dominic Cox (speaker-5, named in the audio) of the ministry Driven Eleven. Dominic accepts the nickname 'Digger,' explains Driven Eleven covers his music, writing, and speaking, and traces the name from a worship band called Driven Worship to 'Driven' to 'Driven 11,' drawn from Hebrews 11's picture of faith in action.
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Why churches are stagnant
Dominic argues churches are stagnant because people are scared to go: faith in action is small daily kindnesses, fellowship, and serving right where you are, which is what the Great Commission is about. The hosts agree that knowing what Jesus said and trusting it are different things.
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EP Light of the Future: we are the light
Dominic describes his EP Light of the Future: first was the light (God, alpha and omega), then came the light (Christ), and now believers, filled with the Holy Spirit, are the light and salt of the earth until Christ returns. The hosts reflect that light is never scared of darkness; it just takes over.
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Song performance: Coming Home
Dominic performs 'Coming Home' live in studio, a song about his testimony of pride: chasing the wind, learning he is better off a fool than having it all without God, and running home. The hosts react to the repeated chorus 'I'm coming home' growing more resolute each time, and to the point that we must humble ourselves and move toward God, not wait for him to move to us.
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Dominic's musical journey and the Stevie Sites aside
Dominic tells how he picked up guitar seven years ago to sing to his kids after playing saxophone, how military marriage shelved music for years until church revived it. A host recalls past guest Stevie Sites, who similarly stepped away for a decade of family before returning to music.
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Book promo: Perception Matters and five communication principles
Dominic previews his book Perception Matters: Customer Loyalty is Easier Than You Think: it's about improving communication at work, in family, anywhere. He names five principles: repeat the need, assure them of a solution, give a time frame for response, say thank you, and integrity (let your yes be yes and your no be no).
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The hammock and the wobbly table
Dominic tells a parable from the book: a husband who says 'I'll fix that later' about a wobbly glass table falls asleep and the evening ends in blood and 'I hate you'; the same scene with a firm time ('around 12:00') ends in popcorn and a movie. One tiny ambiguous word changes everything.
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Hosts apply the principle: vague integrity and 'later'
The hosts turn the principle on themselves: saying 'later' preserves deniability while feeling like integrity; vague promises let you avoid accountability while looking reliable. One host confesses he nailed a firm promise to one daughter about Battleship and failed with a vague 'later' to another about Minecraft videos; firm commitments force real prioritization of time.
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Real forgiveness vs dismissive forgiveness
A host, after talking with station manager Chris Roloff, argues society's version of forgiveness is dismissive ('oh, it's okay') rather than naming the harm and forgiving it anyway, which is how Jesus' forgiveness actually works. People want God to say 'whatever you do, I'm okay with' instead of 'it was harmful, but I forgive it.' The same short-term-vs-long-term pattern connects back to church stagnation.
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Pope Style: stop setting milestones, start walking miles
- Should Christians stop setting milestones and start walking miles?
The Pope Style bit opens with the recurring joke that locals think Ben is the pope and gather on his lawn. The advice: stop setting milestones and start walking miles. People spend their lives marking guideposts (goals, measurements, agreement with Jesus' words) without ever doing the miles; agreement on Sunday with no follow-through produces no fruit, and the Christian life becomes admiration of milestones instead of walking.
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Hosts riff: Enoch, the 72, Ephesians 2:10, and the kingdom's edge
The hosts build on the pope style: a host imagines the 72 demanding a ten-step plan before going; another offers Enoch, whose only milestone was walking faithfully with the Lord for three hundred years; a host ties it to Ephesians 2:10 (saved by faith for good works). Discussion widens to living 'on the edge' of the kingdom, holding onto your own kingdom while wanting God's, illustrated by Matthew the tax collector, who existed nowhere until he found a place in Christ's company.
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Pre-release book promo
The hosts recap where to get Perception Matters (pre-release copies from Dominic or Tate Publishing, official release August 8) and the Light of the Future EP (driven11.com and everywhere music is sold). The show's motto 'No Bible No Breakfast' is quoted back, and the hosts jokingly apply Dominic's five communication principles to presenting the gospel.
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Song performance: Passenger, and the station sign-off
Dominic performs 'Passenger,' a song about giving up control: 'I'm just a passenger... I'm giving you my life. I want you to drive.' The hosts join in with gang 'oh-oh' vocals. The show then signs off the Truth Network 99.3 FM broadcast, thanking sponsor Bob Eisenlauer, with the sign-off phrase 'be faithful in the means, God will take care of the ends.'
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Family Leadership Summit reaction: Trump, McCain, and the atheists
- Are Christians investing political energy in the wrong thing?
A host recounts attending the Family Leadership Summit: the format was candidates answering audience questions; Donald Trump's comments about John McCain and his answer that he had never asked God for forgiveness. His main discomfort: summit-goers bragged about 'putting atheists in their place' without moving the needle, and he wonders whether the event's time, energy, and money actually help anyone know Jesus. A host recalls a broadcaster's line: to surprise an atheist, love them.
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Moral America vs a nation of disciples
The hosts debate the evangelical political strategy: investing in changing laws ('moral America,' even defunding Planned Parenthood) versus making disciples and changing people. They argue the early church never tried to fix Rome, a kingdom where abortion is legal but no one wants one reflects Christ better than one where it's illegal but everyone clamors for it, and that true authority starts in local churches. One host shares a testimony: twenty years ago his pregnant wife hemorrhaged, and they chose the baby's life regardless of the law. The Reaganomics model (top-down trickle) is contrasted with bottom-up discipleship, two by two.
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Dear LFTP: the 24-year-old whose divorced parents are cozy
- Would it be overstepping to tell my flirty divorced parents to spend less time together?
A letter from a 24-year-old: her divorced parents act like best friends, but lately she's found suggestive texts implying a flirty relationship, likely hidden from her stepmother of fifteen years. She asks whether it's overstepping to demand they see less of each other. The hosts say: don't dictate, but do bring it up; apologize for snooping first, approach with humility, and don't gossip about it with other family members. The Secular answer warns she may be presumptuous: the stepmother may know, and kids rarely see the inner workings of a marriage.
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Dear LFTP: the 15-year-old dating Aiden
- How do I tell my parents about my boyfriend Aiden without lying anymore?
A letter from a girl (15-and-a-half) secretly dating her boyfriend Aiden for three months behind her parents' backs; her parents think he's obsessed and she's too young. The hosts are blunt: break up or at least bring it into the light, stop sneaking, honor your parents. Advice for the parents: give her freedom within fences (invite Aiden to dinner) or she'll rebel outright. Dominic shares his rule for his kids: you can date whenever you'd like, when you're ready to look for a husband or wife. The Secular answer: maturity is shown through openness, honesty, and responsibility.
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Next-week teasers and closing promo
The hosts tease next week's show: the Ashley Madison hack exposing cheating users, and a Gerald Thompson list of '10 toxic Christians in the church today' sent in by listener Kevin Lindgren. Final promo for Perception Matters (out August 8), the Light of the Future EP at driven11.com, and thanks to sponsor Bob Eisenlauer.
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Closing song: Glory to His Name
Dominic closes the show performing 'Glory to His Name,' built on Romans 8:18's promise that present sufferings cannot compare with the glory to be revealed. The host closes with the recurring sign-off: 'be faithful in the means, and let God take care of the ends.'