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No. 169 Season 2013 · Episode 42 · Recorded December 2, 2013

December 02, 2013 Podcast

15 conversations 0:59:48

In this episode

  1. 0:00 1 min

    Show opening

    A produced intro voices the show's tagline from the Pathway Studios in Johnston Proper, followed by a call-and-response cold open with the studio crew.

  2. 0:32 2 min

    Tonight's lineup preview

    A host previews the night's agenda: Dear LFTP holiday advice (a man who eats dessert first, a divorced man asking about a Christmas gift for his ex-wife), two articles (church hopping pros and cons; three things every Christian should know), and a Bible quiz.

  3. 2:38 5 min

    Multi-faith parenting and the 'a lot to offer' critique

    • Can Jewish and Christian faiths coherently coexist in one home's parenting?
    • Should Christians celebrate Hanukkah?

    A host reacts to a public-radio guest describing raising children in a multi-faith home (one parent Jewish, one Christian). He argues that treating faith like a consumer choice, something picked because a religion 'has a lot to offer,' is opportunism rather than obedience to God, and that humans do not get to approve or disapprove of how God runs things. A brief aside muses about celebrating Hanukkah.

  4. 7:51 2 min

    Three things every Christian should know, part 1: identity

    • What are the three things every Christian should know?

    The hosts read an article listing three things every Christian should know. Part one covers identity: knowing about Jesus versus knowing Jesus; the Bible's first word on humans is that they bear God's image, so believers are more than sinners, and in Christ are blameless, holy, and pure per Ephesians.

  5. 10:14 5 min

    Three things, part 2: purpose - worship versus making disciples

    The article claims humanity's purpose is work-as-worship; the hosts debate whether purpose is better framed as making disciples (the Great Commission) or image-bearing. One quotes 1 Peter 2:9 and questions whether scripture supports reducing purpose to worship, including the popular picture of heaven as eternal singing.

  6. 15:26 6 min

    Three things, part 3: destination - eternal life starts now

    The article's third point is destination: Revelation's new heavens and new earth and the kingdom of God at hand. The hosts agree evangelism too often sells only relief from this world instead of following Jesus for eternity, illustrated with the woman who touched Jesus' cloak in Luke and Paul's 'to live is Christ, to die is gain.'

  7. Bit 21:33 3 min

    Rant against prayer circles

    • Are prayer circles God-honoring, and what makes them bad?

    A host rants that he cannot stand prayer circles, describing the awkward multi-minute silences, the lack of a designated closer, and a story of saying 'amen' to rescue a new believer from a prayer that dragged on. The crew jokes about hand-squeezing protocols and designated closers.

  8. 24:25 2 min

    Pocket communion kits and shut-in communion

    A joke about marketing a pocket communion kit leads into a discussion of serving communion to shut-ins: whether pre-packaged cups defeat communion's purpose as a unity meal of the body of Christ, and the hosts' view that the practice is meaningful to recipients but not practiced at their church.

  9. 26:24 1 min

    Station ID and Christmas event promo

    A station ID gives the show's schedule (Monday nights at 10pm on livefromthepath.org, Saturdays at 7 on 99.3 KTAA) and promotes the upcoming Christmas From The Path event with musical guest Jeff Arndale and company.

  10. Game 27:02 6 min

    Bible quiz: disease

    The crew works through a christiansunite.com multiple-choice Bible quiz on disease (ten questions: the withered hand, the ten lepers, Naaman, King Asa, Jehoram of Judah, the Pool of Bethesda). Chat listeners play along; a joke about a fallen Christ the Redeemer statue closes out the bit.

  11. 33:04 12 min

    What's wrong with church hopping?

    • What is wrong with church hopping?

    The hosts work through an article's three 'pros' of church hopping (beauty in diversity, different strokes for different folks, what's good for them is good for me, with a Dwight Moody quote on attendance) and debate whether hopping undermines community, accountability, and roots. A live-chat zinger aimed at one of the hosts punctuates the argument.

  12. Dear LFTP 44:34 3 min

    Dear LFTP: the man who eats dessert first

    • Is it rude to eat dessert first at restaurants?

    A listener writes that coworkers criticize him for eating dessert first at restaurants on business trips, a habit from being denied it as a child. The hosts say he is not being rude, that he should eat as he pleases and find better friends. The 'Secular' answer is read and rejected.

  13. Dear LFTP 48:01 4 min

    Dear LFTP: Christmas gift for an ex-wife

    • What is an appropriate Christmas gift for a recently divorced ex-wife?

    A man divorced after 31 years of marriage asks what Christmas gift is appropriate for his ex-wife, since they remain friendly and will spend holidays with their children. The hosts roast him, argue the real problem is a marriage subordinated to the kids (God, then marriage, then children), and advise a heartfelt apology letter or nothing at all. Secular's gift-card answer is read.

  14. Dear LFTP 51:50 5 min

    Dear LFTP: should the parents lend Sam a luxury car?

    • Are we being unreasonable by not letting our adult son borrow a car?

    Parents who bought two luxury cars after putting both sons through college ask whether they are unreasonable not to lend one to their adult son Sam when he visits, since he is off their insurance. The hosts say lend him the car and be more generous; the Secular answer sides with the parents and the hosts reject it.

  15. 56:52 3 min

    Sign-off, then a repeated opening fragment

    The host signs off with a station ID, then the transcript's final ~2.4 minutes repeat the show's opening cold open nearly verbatim (the lineup preview and the start of the multi-faith story) before cutting off mid-sentence. This appears to be a duplication artifact in the source audio, not a planned segment.

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